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I took your last sentence to heart and ordered a ruggedized today, in part due to the 20% off REI members benefit that I've been waiting on. That's a good savings on a $2k tent. Excited to check it out.

I'm in the same boat, so thanks for this timely thread. My son and I are about to do a cross country trip in June, through Moab etc and camping from NC and back. We are going to go with one of the Kukenams after reading this and other bits. Question: do you guys think the ruggedized versions...

On the Blue Ridge Parkway near Linville NC.

so, so good One of my favorite threads on the internet, ever. Thanks to everyone who has contributed. I'm still reading through but wanted to chime in with my 2 '89s. This is awesome.