jaymar
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If only all these legendary explorers who summited Everest, made it to the south pole, crossed deserts and oceans before synthetics existed, had known that...I would think Carhart, for cotton.
Just remember: cotton kills
If only all these legendary explorers who summited Everest, made it to the south pole, crossed deserts and oceans before synthetics existed, had known that...I would think Carhart, for cotton.
Just remember: cotton kills
I like the feel of it, I even like the sound of it. It won't melt into my skin if things get toasty, and it won't leach toxins through my skin.Why Cotton?
Carhartt though when i was younger and ranching full time.
Same here on Darn Tough!To be fair, flannel is cotton.
I dont own one but Vermont Flannel is on my list.
For now, my flannels consist of L.L. Bean (including one of the thick chamois types) and Weatherproof Vintage.
You didnt specifically ask about socks but the ONLY socks I buy now are "Darn Tough" from the Cabot Mills in Vermont. Unconditionally Guaranteed for life Marino wool blends. There is one exception in my drawer and that's a Smartwool pair. I liked the colors so my girlfriend bought them for me, so my original statement stands.
I'm just at that place in life where I will pay a little more for fewer, better quality items whenever possible.
Buy once, cry once.I live in Merino wool. Light, never stinks. Lasts forever. But $75 for a t shirt does hurt. Darn Tough for socks. 19 days in Madagascar- 1 pair of socks and 2 underwear. No stink for real.
Cotton kills. Most of those explorers were wool. Wool is superIf only all these legendary explorers who summited Everest, made it to the south pole, crossed deserts and oceans before synthetics existed, had known that...Cotton, wool, down and leather worked for them...
Everest, south pole, Donner Pass...um...If only all these legendary explorers who summited Everest, made it to the south pole, crossed deserts and oceans before synthetics existed, had known that...Cotton, wool, down and leather worked for them...
The only cotton mountaineers used was oiled canvas, and that was only if rain was expected. Most used natural wool (with the lanolin still in) that was almost completely waterproof or oiled or waxed leather. Cotton could be used next to skin if wool was not tolerated but it was not optimal.If only all these legendary explorers who summited Everest, made it to the south pole, crossed deserts and oceans before synthetics existed, had known that...Cotton, wool, down and leather worked for them...
At the moment I'm most concerned with the weather in the Southwest, so cotton or cotton over light merino. Would be interesting to really look in detail into what these guys used when the going got cold though. You've given me some good search terms there!The only cotton mountaineers used was oiled canvas, and that was only if rain was expected. Most used natural wool (with the lanolin still in) that was almost completely waterproof or oiled or waxed leather. Cotton could be used next to skin if wool was not tolerated but it was not optimal.
'Cotton kills' was already an old mantra when I started climbing in the '60's.
For desert wear best to look at what natives living in the desert wear (wore): Native Americans and prospectors in the American Southwest, inhabitants in the Sahara regions.At the moment I'm most concerned with the weather in the Southwest, so cotton or cotton over light merino . . .
Yeah I pick up some good-condition used W&G when it comes along, an occasional NWT item. So far as I know, all of those old REAL outfitters got bought up and turned into mall junk or closed down. W&G, A&F, Banana Republic, Land's End, Eddie Bauer. There's Filson, but it seems a lot of the good stuff has been downgraded or discontinued or (in some cases) patterned into something that looks like a unicorn puked on it (and prices jacked to the skies). Did I miss anyone?“Would be interesting to really look in detail into what these guys used when the going got cold though.”
Sadly long gone (after over 100 years) but worked for Rosevelt, and serious explorers for numerous decades- Willis and Geiger!! I have had a couple of their shirts pushing 50 years… (yea, very old fart that loved climbing, hang gliding, etc since the 70’s)
Willis & Geiger Outfitters - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
I was a huge fan of the Darn Tough socks when I first got them. They were stink free for a few days without washing and just felt like the perfect match with my Danner Mountain Light II hiking boots. I only wear socks when hiking or if there's more than half inch of snow. Otherwise I'm wearing Rainbow sandals most of the year..To be fair, flannel is cotton.
I dont own one but Vermont Flannel is on my list.
For now, my flannels consist of L.L. Bean (including one of the thick chamois types) and Weatherproof Vintage.
You didnt specifically ask about socks but the ONLY socks I buy now are "Darn Tough" from the Cabot Mills in Vermont. Unconditionally Guaranteed for life Marino wool blends. There is one exception in my drawer and that's a Smartwool pair. I liked the colors so my girlfriend bought them for me, so my original statement stands.
I'm just at that place in life where I will pay a little more for fewer, better quality items whenever possible.