E350 4R100 vs. 5R110 Transmission

[trailstriped_roo]

I am wondering exactly how much better would the newer 5R110 series transmission be for the E series van that would see a lot of off roading?

All of my search results yielded to F series builds for sled pulling and racing, and from that crowd it sounds like the 4R100 would be sufficient, and a full rebuild to make it bulletproof can be had under $4k if it did blow up. But I don't know if the transmissions were the same for the F and E series chassis.

I have a few E350 V10 vans near me that are older then 2005, but wondering if it is worth the wait to find a '05 and up V10 with the 5R110.

 

[FordGuy1]

Most trans techs would tell you that they are about the same in terms of durability, reliability. You just get a 5th gear in the 5R110.

 

[ujoint]

I've yet to see a 5R110 fail. They shift better, are (much) easier to make 4wd and don't run hot like the 4R100s love to do.

But...... they're much harder to find!

 

[RVflyfish]

I've yet to see a 5R110 fail. They shift better, are (much) easier to make 4wd and don't run hot like the 4R100s love to do.

But...... they're much harder to find!

Hmmm, so basically just all-around better. Could you swap a 5R110 into an older 5.4 or 7.3? 1999, for example?

 

[iggi]

Actually you get a 5th and 6th gear. (kinda)

Ford 5R110W TorqShift Transmission Specs & Ratios

Ford 5R110W TorqShift 5 speed automatic transmission specs, ratios, and troubleshooting information. The 5R110W was introduced alongside the 6.0L Power Stroke during the 2003 model year. Ford continued to offer the transmission behind the later 6.4L Power Stroke, but ultimately retired the...

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Most trans techs would tell you that they are about the same in terms of durability, reliability. You just get a 5th gear in the 5R110.

 

[ujoint]

Hmmm, so basically just all-around better. Could you swap a 5R110 into an older 5.4 or 7.3? 1999, for example?

Behind a 7.3 would be great. I have seen someone do it with a 5.4 since they did come with that transmission in the cutaway chassis. Have to swap the harness, PCM, etc too.

**edit ---- I planned to do this to my 5.4 spec van but had a hard time sourcing a transmission/harness that hadn't already been cut up by a wrecking yard. And I ran out of time, still something I'd like to do.

 

[RVflyfish]

Interesting. So no standalone controller needed?

 

[ujoint]

Interesting. So no standalone controller needed?

It would be needed for a 7.3 diesel, yes.

 

[CaptainBuilt]

I went from a 4R100 on a 7.3 van to a 5R110 on a 5.4.

I will never go back lol

 

[Lilnuts]

Good article on this. the guy Mark worked at the ford factory as a auto trans engineer, he knows his stuff.

What if: Swapping a 5R110 or 6R140 behind a 7.3L PS

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[louwiththetravelintruck]

I am wondering exactly how much better would the newer 5R110 series transmission be for the E series van that would see a lot of off roading?

All of my search results yielded to F series builds for sled pulling and racing, and from that crowd it sounds like the 4R100 would be sufficient, and a full rebuild to make it bulletproof can be had under $4k if it did blow up. But I don't know if the transmissions were the same for the F and E series chassis.

I have a few E350 V10 vans near me that are older then 2005, but wondering if it is worth the wait to find a '05 and up V10 with the 5R110.

Hey guys, I'm new here but had to chime in on this one since I've had both an 02, 08, and now a 15 F250. From my experience, I had the most trouble out of the 4r100 out of my 02 F250 with the 7.3, even after rebuilding it. I had so much trouble out of it I eventually said screw it and ordered a cheap remanned 5R110 from these guys, https://reman-transmission.com/transmission-codes/?code=5R110W (all stock), and got the PCM/ wiring adapters, brackets, etc to do the swap. Never had an issue from then on out till the day I sold it for the 08 F250 which came stock with a 5r110. I owned the 08 for years, took it up to 190k miles, added a 5in turbo-back exhaust, intake, KEM 345 tune, and still didn't have issues out of the transmission. The moral of the story, go with a 5r110 if you can find one in your price range.

 

[FDM2012]

Who/Where did you get the extras from? ( PCM/ wiring adapters, brackets, etc ...)

Hey guys, I'm new here but had to chime in on this one since I've had both an 02, 08, and now a 15 F250. From my experience, I had the most trouble out of the 4r100 out of my 02 F250 with the 7.3, even after rebuilding it. I had so much trouble out of it I eventually said screw it and ordered a cheap remanned 5R110 from these guys, https://reman-transmission.com/transmission-codes/?code=5R110W (all stock), and got the PCM/ wiring adapters, brackets, etc to do the swap. Never had an issue from then on out till the day I sold it for the 08 F250 which came stock with a 5r110. I owned the 08 for years, took it up to 190k miles, added a 5in turbo-back exhaust, intake, KEM 345 tune, and still didn't have issues out of the transmission. The moral of the story, go with a 5r110 if you can find one in your price range.