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Yes I know it was what do ppl carry and I was stating why. And giving numbers to support it.

Its a open thread I can post if I want to with that said. Yes A 45 colt and a 45acp are not the same. A 45acp is a short 45 colt. Youre right lots of deer and bear have been taken. But in a situation of life and death the 10 is better. Certain states do not allow hunting with a 45acp for deer...

A 380? Dont even waste my time. Heres the specs at double tap. 242 ft. lbs. 3.5" bbl Bersa Thunder @1100 fps You are right a bad guy will most likely go away if you pull a gun. A bear, a cougar or a person on drugs will not.

A 45 is too weak for bear or even deer. I carry a 10mm auto,glock20 . They sell actually hunting ammo for it. It will stop a black bear. And many Guides in alaska carry it as well for brown bear. But thats borderline. It has more power at 100 yard then a 45 does at the muzzle. It falls in...

Thats not bad, I built a custom rack for my toyoya. All aluminum tubing. Its got a gas can mount, shovel and highlift. I will add light mounts soo. It weighs about 40 pounds but will support alot of weight.